Listen to this great radio interview of Deborah Clark of the 14,000-acre Birdwell-Clark Ranch near Henrietta, Texas. Deborah and her husband, Emry, have been practicing Holistic Management on their ranch, using their stocker operation to not only provide good income but also improve quail and other wildlife habitat. They can run as many as 5,000 stockers on as little as 45 acres to increase stock density, moving them 4-6 times a day.